T.A.T. The Amazing Tengu

I'm not a pve'er normally. Rarely, in fact. However, I've recently found myself a bit low on funds. Rather than spend real life money for PLEX this time I thought I'd do some ratting to earn isk. Alas, I set forth to prosper and make my wallet blink to the positive.

It was a lovely, quiet morning in Vale of the Silent. Certainly the early morning hours were living up to the silent part. It wasn't too terribly boring running the Forsaken Hubs. I was making some cash and was happy about that.

As is common though, an orange popped in to local. An NC. dude who loves to try and kill ratters, miners, or whatever else he can. Dimitryy is his name. As is per the usual I aligned out and waited. D-scan, nothing. D-scan, a Cynabal. Hover over the warp button, get ready get ready, Cynabal comes out of warp blazing onto my overview and POW, I'm gone into warp. Whew!

Not being a well educated pilot in the art of pve I wasn't aware that most people run Forsaken hubs and if there is one on scan that's where gankers will head straight for. There was one- mine. It is possible one of the alliance mates in local, there was only one, had me cloaky scouted and is a rat bastard spy. That's a little game we're going to have to play to be able to say for sure yet. I'm watching you buddy, in case you're reading this.

Back inside the station now Dimitryy soon left local. Not being a pve go getter I was content to sit around  and have a few more drinks whilst bullshitting to my corp mates who were also on comms. I honestly wasn't keeping track of time. It seemed to be a few minutes or so when Dimittryy came back in local for a brief few seconds or so then was gone again.

It may have been 15 minutes. It may have been an hour. I don't recall now. Suffice it to say somewhere between 10 and 30 minutes is a good guess before I undocked to go finish that hub that was so rudely interrupted.

No sooner did I catch Warp Drive Active - Shit! Can't cancel warp. Dimitryy pops into local. Every gut feeling I had was that he was in warp to the same hub. He may have even logged of in the hub. As sure as there is shit in a horse pasture there he was. 15 km off me when I landed. Yellow boxed, red boxed, tackled.

Fuck my life right? I rarely ever rat. And here goes my Tengu, up in smoke, I was thinking to myself. I was telling the guys on comms that this is it, I'm going to lose this Tengu ratting. Slicing my wrists in shame was a passing thought that I had. It isn't a decked out, super expensive, faction fit Tengu. It's just a Tech II fit Tengu with resists for ratting Guristas. EM resist? ZERO

My first instinct would be to fight. However, I know a pve ship with no EM resists is not going to beat a pvp fit ship. At least not a Cynabal.

It's a giant blur to be honest. The "oh fuck" thoughts for the first 2 seconds turn to "fuck it I'm going down fighting if I'm going to lose this Tengu". And that's exactly what I did. Instead of trying to run like a bitch-bear I locked up the Cynabal, and let loose on his shields. Overheat!

My shields melted, naturally. Fuck! This isn't even going to be close.
Come on, come on. At least get him into armor a decent amount.

I'll be honest here. I already had a few fair amount of drinks. I wasn't watching anything other than his damage being taken and the damage to my ship. I wasn't really flying it. I had accepted the fact that I was going to explode all over the system. At half armor on my ratting class Tengu the Cynabal's shields finally relented. I was hoping to at least take him to structure before I exploded.

Here's where things get a bit "I don't know what the fuck happened."
It seemed as though the damage that I was taking lessened greatly, if not stop. I may have been imaging that though.

Then the unbelievable. The Cynabal melted and exploded. I was at half armor when the Cynabal entered armor. It melted like a chocolate bar dropped on the thrust ports of the engine of my Tengu.

Holy shit. I can't believe it. I won! - screaming on comms.
No EM resists. No point. Just luck.

Dimitryy too was baffled. And a great sport. I'm still like WTF today.
This is by far the best kill I have ever gotten in the game to date, since 2008. A complete and utter shocker.

GF!

Comms from local:


Name:    Local
Listener:        Harrigan VonStudly
Session started: 2013.04.08 03:14:38
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[ 2013.04.08 05:31:14 ] Harrigan VonStudly > gj mate
[ 2013.04.08 05:31:46 ] Dimitryy > LOOOOL
[ 2013.04.08 05:31:48 ] Dimitryy > WAT
[ 2013.04.08 05:31:56 ] Dimitryy > GF
[ 2013.04.08 05:32:07 ] Harrigan VonStudly > pve tengu wins pvp cynabal
[ 2013.04.08 05:32:09 ] Harrigan VonStudly > gf
[ 2013.04.08 05:32:25 ] Harrigan VonStudly > dude that was a gf
[ 2013.04.08 05:32:34 ] Dimitryy > that was silly, i've killed tengus in ruptures before
[ 2013.04.08 05:32:49 ] Dimitryy > Kill: Kazthor (Tengu) Like yesterday
[ 2013.04.08 05:33:43 ] Dimitryy > Oh man, thats pretty fucking funny
[ 2013.04.08 05:33:52 ] Harrigan VonStudly > dude. that was fucking wild
[ 2013.04.08 05:34:18 ] Dimitryy > Wasn't even that much rat aggro on it
[ 2013.04.08 05:34:33 ] Dimitryy > oh well, such is life i guess
[ 2013.04.08 05:34:37 ] Dimitryy > gg =)

Blog Banter 45: I Didn't Mean To Say It. Or Did I?

Welcome to the 45th Blog Banter, the EVE Online community discussion which stumbles from topic to topic like a drunk looking for an empty cubicle.


In a socially-driven game environment such as EVE Online's, everyone has an agenda. CCP promotes its products and has an army of volunteers to do the same; corporations and alliances deliver entertaining recruitment drives, CSM election candidates solicit for voter favour, bloggers and podcasters opine to their audiences.

In this intricate web of communication, influence and control, what part does propaganda play in your game?

Propaganda plays a role in everyone's game. By definition I draw your attention to the Types section of the wiki from which I will copy/paste.

"Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognition's  and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist."[3] More comprehensive is the description by Richard Alan Nelson: through the controlled transmission of one-sided messages (which may or may not be factual) via mass and direct media channels.

You, me, everyone, are creating propaganda. Even if we aren't meaning to do so. I am trying to influence you to fly a specific ship because "I" think it's awesome. You are trying to convince me to read a certain Eve blog because you feel it is fantastic and educational. 

 "Propaganda is neutrally defined as a systematic form of purposeful persuasion that attempts to influence the emotions, attitudes, opinions, and actions of specified target audiences for ideological, political or commercial purposes...

Are our influences that we attempt on others, no matter how unconscious it is to ourselves, actually propaganda? I submit that it is.

I want you/you want me to try a specific ship hull, fit, whatever, if for no other reason than it's awesome. And knowing that you love this ship hull, fit, whatever, I/you am/are going to try and influence each others' actions of trying these things. Because I believe, ideologically, that it is beneficial to you I am trying to convince you to try it. Or  perhaps I buy in to you propaganda and start flying a specific ship/fit. In this case propaganda plays a large part in my game. As it does in yours. Following someone's simple advise could be construed as being affected by propaganda.

The ideologically part of this is backed with fact that, oh let's say that I am trying to influence you to fly a Tengu to rat with because you will make more isk/hour as the Tengu is a mean machine. It does not make it any less propaganda. Propaganda is not defined as lies or truths having to be a must.

However, propaganda of the smear campaign type, such as is common with null sec politics and personal destructive games plays a part as a motivator for me. It motivates me to seek the truth. There is a lot of crap out there. People on both sides of a political stance want every one else to be influenced by their propaganda. The sheep will blindly follow no matter what the truth is. Others will seek to chop through the thickest of brush with their machete' to clear a spot where light can shine down upon and reveal some truth.

When my corp mate affects my decisions with his influences because he can prove what he is saying with fact I have no reason to doubt him. Mostly because we communicate on a daily basis. I can see the actions of what he is saying. But does that negate the fact that what he is saying is or is not propaganda?

However, propaganda from outside, more distant entities has to be more thoroughly researched and investigated for truth. Too often people spew ridiculous accusations and/or lies for a variety of reasons. It may be to simply make themselves look better in the eyes of their esteemed shit posters in which they cozy up to on major propaganda sites like Evenews 24 or Kugutsumen forums or it may be simply to smear someone in to the ground because they are no life having losers. Unless you are a sheep that will follow blindly, at which point you do not care about truth, thus buying into the propaganda influence without research, the truth should always be sought. Either way propaganda has a huge influence on one's game play.

The truth must be sought before allowing propaganda to affect you.

I do not believe anyone is immune or uninfluenced by propaganda. The question is - to what degree?

Happy Dancer Now With More Window Licking and Poo Flinging

In general I believe you are better off to let the retard stand in the corner, dancing and humming whilst shitting his pants harmlessly rather than to disturb the poor little fella'. It's not his fault, after all. Every once in awhile though you have to open up the window because it just stinks too damn much.

This is some of the funniest and smelliest shit I've seen in some time. Funny in that Hilmar Keller's little "and finally, the icing on the cake" comment about my post in the leaked forum thread pictured in the OP of this Kugu thread is simply fucking brilliant at exposing the shit lord splerging that is most prevalent over there that some partake of while rubbing their vaginas.

See, what they don't know is me. Nor do they know what I am like. Nor does Hilmar get the context of that forum post.
Here's a hint for you: It's called sarcasm. Heh. Hard to believe. But yeah, I was being sarcastic to the carebears in the alliance. For your information, I don't rat. I've done 3? maybe 4 sanctums running logi to support a couple of my corp mates who netted some 10/10's. And not during a deployment.

The elitism by some of the turds over there is so great that they automatically assume the question that I asked, "What's a good system to rat in?" - was asked because I'm a total retard. That's what they would have you believe. It (the implied meaning by the OP) certainly isn't meant to be the icing on the cake in the context of - look at his sarcasm to Jade's post and those who perma-rat no matter what's happening. At least there's no reason or indication to assume otherwise. Which is WHY I made it in the first place. Not to snide Jade, to snide our resident bears.  It can only be one thing, right? Harri the retard.

You can't make this shit up folks. Some of them think every one is a retard. But the tactic of making every one try and look retarded to hide their own retardation is not a good tactic to follow.

It's a shame too. There's some brilliant people over there and in the game. But the splerg-fest that is prevalent just about everywhere you look with anything having to do with Eve-online sometimes leaves a person thinking that the average age of the player is 14.

As a side note: The biggest, saltiest, crocodile tears inside Li3 Federation about the move to the CFC are from the alts of dudes in other large, very large alliances. They can't follow to CFC. For obvious reasons.

I felt that I would defend myself since I am shown publicly being made, or attempted to be made to look retarded by an obvious glass tasting connoisseur.

I also want to acknowledge the obvious brilliance of every one out there who was born being a perfect alliance leader, diplomat, corp. ceo, pilot, market pro, etc... straight away out of the womb.

For you're a legend. I salute that gift.
/sarcasm off

Harri vOv

The War That Wasn't

Holy shit the splerg!...

It's everywhere. The Eve-O forums, Kugu, and all over heaven and creation.

I can't recreate the drama here. I'm sure you all have read it, heard it, lived it. One thing can not be denied. The 'butt hurt'. Yes! The butt hurt is strong with this one. Why? Because the great war that everyone wants to happen didn't happen. Yet...

It wasn't an issue two (2) weeks ago. All of a sudden though, without warning, the shit fell in on the chicken coup. Do your own research and set aside your biased opinions. But look in to the TEST/FA bones of contention as a start. I think it becomes clear after all the crapola though. The maddest of the mad are those who seek to whore on the skeleton of the dead of both sides. I'm looking at you Snot Shot :)

The Kugutsumen forums thread relating to this issue is perhaps the most amazing thing that I have read. Ever.

We can all speculate in the past, as I have, about sites like Kugu, EN24, TMC, etc... And we can all speculate about these situations. But if you follow Eve null sec and its politics and mechanics in the slightest you can easily surmise the result of the powers to be.

I won't quote and copy/paste the meaningful posts in the links I linked earlier. If you can't be arsed to keep up on this crap then I can't be arsed to lead you by your hand to the well of glorious drink.

To me, it becomes increasingly clear those who shed the most tears are those who are are NOT directly affected. The argument that the CFC and the HBC didn't give a damn about grinding structures until now has entered in to the equation. It is said that all the space taken by these entities hasn't mattered when it came to grinding structures until now.

But... by admittance, no war of this magnitude has ever existed in Eve. Never in the face of existence has a war of the magnitude involving CFC,HBC,PL, and all the little shit bags that come up underneath to choose their side and factor in to the whole damned thing has ever been seen to this day. Yet.

There is a gigantic difference between GSF grinding and enemies sov structures to kill them in to non-existence and the HBC/CFC war. The Goons can and would mount a formidable stance. As would the HBC. The war would be blow by blow death and destruction. Obviously one entity would have to say "fuck the tech" and just go for the throat. And that alone would not lead to victory. Although, it would show balls of steel and not-give-a-fuckery.

The sheer amount of grinding needed, added to that , the defense, the back and forth. Face it folks. If you haven't been a leader,planner,logistics guy, and had to plan/live/support this kind of shit, well, I can see their point. If you can't then you're a nobody leech trying preying on the easy pickins'.

Let's be clear my friends. Those who are crying the most tears are those who play both sides of the fence.

I will give it to those, however, who make a point that Eve is about conflict and that a war of this size would drive the entirety of Eve in to conflict. The market and all its goodness and riches it has to offer would explode in activity. Industrialists would be devouring asteroids. War decs would go crazy with war declaration on all the coalition alliances by the risk adverse high sec bears to get their shots in on the freighter supply runs, high sec mission alts, etc... The maps would light up with life as the many dead fall upon the stars.

There are people in this game who play Goons when Goons are tops or winning. Those same people play Test when Test is winning or tops at the moment. It's the same all over Eve. It goes vise-versa. So for those people a war like this would be a blast for them - log off the loser side for the day and log in on the winning side.

You have to separate yourself from all the splerging. I'd go as far as to say that the majority of Eve is not null sec. In fact, we know this to be the case. Null sec is mostly 6 dudes and their alts. LOL. I'm kidding, of course. See what I mean though? You really have to be careful about just dropping the "green" race flag.

And then there's the structure grind:

Anyone who has ground structures knows that it is the worst mechanic CCP can put forth as a form of game play. BUT! The leaders, Shadoo and Mittani, and Montolio don't want this. Well, it would appear that Montolio did. Or didn't care. But we don't know for sure yet.Which concludes one of two things: Total burn out following an already long period of war and structure griding, which speaks to the failure of CCP to make null sec sov a viable enough mechanic worth anything because everyone has to give their heart and soul and DNA for it, OR; Technetium is the all governing heroin of Eve that makes baby crack gravy out of the hardest of military commanders and coalition leaders. We already know the latter to be mainly true.

Who'd win?:

Many speculate as to who would win this war. And many lay the fact the PL is the wildcard. I have to agree. There are huge amounts of isk being gathered. PL, Goonswarm, and TEST take in tons of isk from tech goo. BUT! Who stands to lose the most?

It's too early for PL to call a side. PL is very calculated. They aren't going to pick a side until a side of win is mostly decided, in my opionion. Goons are the spoiled brat of the game. They have never been told no. Test is the bastard child that has red hair and just doesn't give a damn. Even if they all out lost, they wouldn't care. How do you beat that? You don't. That's what the CFC is afraid of.

At first I thought this may be all Hollywood for the sake of excitement. And it may still be. But I don't know folks. There are oats being felt up. One thing is for sure. Hang on to your hats. Because if the levy breaks, well... holy fuck!

Rock and Roll bitches. Let's do this.

Blog Banter 44: Not In My Local

A conversation, led by the literary pugilist Poetic Stanziel and fiction champion Rhavas, has been rumbling in the bowels of the blogosphere for a few days now. Due to popular demand, for posterity and for the attentions of CCP Sisyphus of Team Pulmonary Embolism Player Experience, I have been asked to envelop this discussion into a Blog Banter. The community has spoken and so Drackarn has provided the following question:

"The local chat channel provides EVE players with an instant source of intel of who is in the system. With a quick glance you can tell who is in system and what your standings are to them. War targets, hated enemies, friends and corp mates all stand out clearly. Is this right? Should we have access to this intel for free with no work or effort? Should the Local chat channel even exist? Should normal space be more like wormhole space where the Local channel appears empty until someone speaks?"

So there you have it. Banter On.

In a nutshell. What is the accomplishment trying to be reached by changing local? Is local, aside from spam contract bots and moronic babbling by partially incoherent space turds broken? Not in my opinion. 

Does it detract from the game? As mentioned previously, the drivel by certain glass tasting enthusiasts can "detract" from sound and solitary sanity. But for the most part, no. Local does not harm anything. What's wrong with it?

Step out of the game for a minute. I know for some of you that is a very scary and daunting task. But check it out. If you go in to town and no one is around - not a soul, it's a ghost town. There is no one to see, no one to talk to, nada-zero-zip-zilch. Why on earth would any one want to go there. Of course this is an exaggeration. But still. 

If local were to be delayed or removed altogether you just made each system a ghost town. The exaggeration from above is as much as - the chance that there is no one in local at all is slim. Albeit out of the way low sec holes and deep deep null sec not included. Eve is a dynamic game. We are meant to interact. It's a damned sand box not a litter box. Stop trying to shit in it. 

The Eve experience is the interaction of the Eve player within the universe that CCP has created. The operative word in that sentence interaction. You remove local you remove interaction. 

Let's admit the obvious. The only benefit to making local in all of Eve, bar high sec because we know those wimps there have to have mommy and daddy protection 24/7, the same as wormhole local or whatever... removed completely, is to the benefit of the cloaky camper. And those dudes are pussies too. I will not support a change to the game that make it more fun for pussies. 

Before you all go saying; bahbuhbuhbuh, Harri, local as it is now is more an easy button. It's more for pussies than what you are claiming. I say nay! Why? This is why. Read what Rixx has to say. Maybe you aren't a solo hunter in low sec. Maybe carving slices of steak off your victim with precision from the on board Amarr laser isn't your thing. Exactly my point. Eve is more about hunting and smearing the stars with the turds that find their way in to our systems. This is why cloaky campers in null sec are so hated. The null care bears hate them because they are so pussified that they won't venture out unless the system is complete blue. But to others we want to know who is in local so we can kill them. And THAT is what Eve is about. 

I want to know who is around. Rixx wants to know who is around. We want to smash your face in. Or delight in the blood dripping down the back of our throats by having you smash our face in. This is why we, and many many people play the game. 

If CCP Unifex is tried and true not wanting to change the game in an extreme manner, well, take local off the table if it is a consideration for consumption.

"Whilst I never want to move completely away from caring for the game we already have and continue to update it as it grows more mature, I think it is time to be a little more ambitious. Nothing crazy or away from the core spaceship game that is EVE, but something more inspiring for everyone." -CCP Unifex

I don't know that I would go whole hog and quit playing Eve like Rixx stated but there certainly are more iterations that need done other than local, which isn't even broken. Some want to try and introduce an idea that hopefully gets implemented so they can claim fame and fortune, in my opinion. Leeches. To eek out e-fame at the expense of others. STFU! I say. Get a life.

Lastly. I am not going to offer ideas for something other than what we have now. Because, in my opinion, what we have now is not broken. 

Folks. Sometimes you have to put the trolls in the back seat and beat them with a wet leather glove that is about 12 inches or more long across their face so they feel the sting of the stupidity that they are and deserve. Slap the bitch drama queen and don't let (shim) run your life (game). Want to fix something? Fix the drone UI.

~Harri out

2012 Eve Online Review; Harri Style

Like a baws

"A gaming universe as vast and unique as EVE Online is constantly evolving and the experience is different for every participant. Conventional games review techniques cannot possibly hope to provide an accurate measure of every aspect of EVE's gameplay. However, with a community initiative like the Blog Banters, we have the resources to deliver the most thorough and up-to-date review ever.

By combining the experiences of contributors from across the EVE metasphere, we get a wealth of opinions from veterans and rookies alike. We'll be able to combine input from faction warfare specialists, wormhole residents, null-sec warriors, missioners, pirates, industrialists, roleplayers, politicians and more to paint a complete picture of the health and progress of EVE Online in its current Retribution incarnation.

Who better to review EVE Online than those who know it best?"

                                                  --oOo--

Welcome to the 42nd EVE Blog Banter, the cross-blog conversation that gives voice to grassroots communities throughout the EVE metasphere.

I give my game play for the first 9 to 10 months of 2012 a 2 of 10. I give Eve a 5 of 10. That's 50% for Eve.

I just lost interest. Low sec was still just shitty old low sec. I didn't play an awful lot. To be honest I don't recall doing much of anything the first 5-6 months (Jan thru May/June) in Eve of 2012.  I guess that's because the status quo was the status quo. In my opinion CCP did not do much to change that. 

My real life took a real dump when my youngest, and only surviving brother took real bad to the brain cancer he had battled for several years. With disenchantment for the game, disenchantment with real life, and two trips back east to see him, one in June before he took too ill, and one in July for his funeral, I just came up short with Eve. And Eve came up short for me. 

Because of these real life events, seeing how short life is, I set out to do something I always wanted to do. Eve wasn't holding my attention. Seeing young people die young gets that attention. And so off I went into real life and not sit idly by staring at a screen full of monotonous anymore.

And now it's winter. What I chose to fill my time with in real life is not doable in winter. It is if you're nuts or numb-bodied. But when it gets below 40 I don't ride motorcycles very much at all. 

So here we are. Retribution.  

It wasn't Retribution that brought me back full bore to Eve. It was winter. But, with winter came Retribution. And with Retribution came glory. 

-Tiercide 10/10 Immediate impact on gameplay and pvp. Huge strides made with useless ships now being flown. Tech 1 cruisers "owning" things that should eat them alive. It is amazing.

-Destroyers 8/10 These little beasts have been redone by the art department. All racial models have a great new look. Gangs of these things with the new frigate logistic ships are a menace to behold. Speaking of logi and Tech 1 cruiser logistics. 9/10 Excellent and cheap way to get good at logi before stepping up to the big boys healing club.

-Crime watch Perhaps the most feared change of all. It appears to be nothing short of awesome. I'll give it a 10/10. I'm not a regular in low sec pvp anymore. But what crime watch has done for low sec pvp was needed. To be able to warp off away from sentry guns and have them forget is phenomenal. 

-The active tracking camera. Meh. My verdict is still out. It seems pretty decent. Changes like that take people like me awhile to play with and opine on them. Old school is hard to break sometimes. I'll give it a 7/10 for now. That's pretty good for a brand new feature. Don't ya think?

-The new "safety". This thing is the biggest piece of garbage ever. EVER! 0/10 'nuff said.

There is a ton of stuff that CCP introduced with Retribution. And it sounds like there's a lot more awesomesauce on the way. There is a vibrance about Eve again. A buzz. There are out of game forum posts by long gone bitter vets who hang around and talk about the game out of game because they're nobody in real life and the game offered them a chance to be someone so they think they're still relevant who state they are tempted to come back to Eve again because of Retribution.

I now reside in sov null space. And null is still null. Same shit, different day. Same old spy crap. Same old drama. Same old trolling and horseshit that goes on. Maybe one day CCP will make null as awesome as it could be. As awesome as Retribution is for now.

2012 earns CCP a 9/10 with me. I just can't quite go perfect on them. But if ever there was a magic, a Viking magic, they sure have it. I don't know what those folks in Iceland drink, eat, or do, but they have some kind of magic spell that has their back. 

So that's it my friends.Eve is abuzz again like it hasn't been for some time. People are dying. People are talking. People are scheming, fighting, and in a hubbub of delight. It's hard to beat that.

Eve Online for game of the year? CCP, game company come back of the year? Maybe both.

Happy New Year All!

Title Happy

Do you know "title happy" people? Those people that have to tack on gawdy shit to their name plate? What a bunch or retards. Especially when it is painfully obvious that it is being done for show factor.

We're out of here.

 Nine (9) days ago I left Generic Pirate Corp. I've had enough of low sec. I have had enough of the core group being ousted in favor of moron douche nozzles coming in and shitting up our excellence. And the final blow was when blues decided to take out a blue POS. Not just any blue POS, mind you. A POS belonging to a core member who was deployed to Afghanistan. Maybe your troll ass whacktopia shit life completely revolves around a gamer life with your head stuck so far up your ass that you can't see what is coming for dinner tomorrow. But for some of us this is not the case. And when you go from forgetting from whence you came and shit on those who have been with you forever, well, fuck you.

I joined Shun The Non Believer Corp. This would be the more industrial corp, but low sec/ null sec industrial corp, of my fellow long time corpie who was deployed to Afghanistan. We got the hell out of dodge and we aren't looking back.

Our first foray since leaving the Jinn. alliance was The Draconis Federation Alliance. Nice group of fellas they are. All tucked up nicely down here in Providence under the wing of Sev3rance. It's kind of cool, to be honest, but the NRDS (Not Red Don't Shoot) is really something to be desired. Individuals are not set red due to the limiting number of contacts that can be had. There is a KOS (Kill On Sight) list. A neutral can be checked against the list to see if they are KOS. The down side is that neutrals are usually ignored in local. If a neutral engages, then, and only then, can a KOS request be made if that neutral is not already KOS. It's kind of like telling the authorities that little Jimmy had a pistol in his locker the other day and was talking about killing people after little Jimmy shoots up the school and takes out (any number) of people. Well too late muffin.

Fuck that noise.

 Something that I've let slip by me in this game, and I say this coming from the point of view of someone who has done almost nothing but PvP for the past 4 years, the beginning of my time in Eve, is that these guys in Shun. are different. They will PvP. They are very knowledgeable in Industry yet they don't afraid of anything. It's refreshing to see guys jump right back up and give no damns after a loss.

You can take those titles and hang them on your ass. When I look at your ship fits, your titles, your little icons on comms, that determine somehow your elite status of whatever ridiculous stature you want to place yourself in to, well, good luck fucko. With all your little titles and "soldier playing" idiocy one thing shows. You won't end up where you want to be. Have a blast Mr. Military Commander. You know who you are. We're out of here.

Harri
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